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		<title>By: James Jay  Carafano</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Jay  Carafano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear lee, thanks for thinking for me.

Only an idiot would argue that  humans are not having an increased impact on the environment. Did I ver make that claim anywhere? No. Do I deny that the global climate is changing. No, I don&#039;t do that either. So what exactly I am not getting here?

Waxman-Markey won&#039;t solve human climate change issues. The law would however would significantly lessen the capacity of humans to respond to climate change through severe economic disruption and loss of economic activity, economic activity that could lead to innovation and adaption to lessen the harmful human impacts on the envrionment and achieve sustainable growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear lee, thanks for thinking for me.</p>
<p>Only an idiot would argue that  humans are not having an increased impact on the environment. Did I ver make that claim anywhere? No. Do I deny that the global climate is changing. No, I don&#8217;t do that either. So what exactly I am not getting here?</p>
<p>Waxman-Markey won&#8217;t solve human climate change issues. The law would however would significantly lessen the capacity of humans to respond to climate change through severe economic disruption and loss of economic activity, economic activity that could lead to innovation and adaption to lessen the harmful human impacts on the envrionment and achieve sustainable growth.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.americansecurityproject.org/theflashpointblog/selena-shilad/2009/08/12/why-james-carafano-has-it-exactly-wrong-on-climate-change-and-national-security/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At no time in history has man had this much affect on the environment.  At no time in the past have we had the ability, except maybe at the beginning of the industrial age when the killer fogs were caused by brawn coal,have we deforested, burned, ruined, polluted and hurt our planet as severely as we have in the last 50 years.  The Amazon region, the Sudan, the after effects of nuclear testing in the south Pacific and in the southwestern United States all have combined with countless other debacles to make this a very fragile time for the earth.  For Dr. Carafano to fail to see that is short sighted and kind of sad.

I also think he knows that or he wouldn&#039;t have protested so much. Who is he trying to convince, the writer or himself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At no time in history has man had this much affect on the environment.  At no time in the past have we had the ability, except maybe at the beginning of the industrial age when the killer fogs were caused by brawn coal,have we deforested, burned, ruined, polluted and hurt our planet as severely as we have in the last 50 years.  The Amazon region, the Sudan, the after effects of nuclear testing in the south Pacific and in the southwestern United States all have combined with countless other debacles to make this a very fragile time for the earth.  For Dr. Carafano to fail to see that is short sighted and kind of sad.</p>
<p>I also think he knows that or he wouldn&#8217;t have protested so much. Who is he trying to convince, the writer or himself?</p>
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		<title>By: The Flash Point Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Defense and Energy and Climate Change(?) Oh My!</title>
		<link>http://www.americansecurityproject.org/theflashpointblog/selena-shilad/2009/08/12/why-james-carafano-has-it-exactly-wrong-on-climate-change-and-national-security/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>The Flash Point Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Defense and Energy and Climate Change(?) Oh My!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all the back and forth over climate change and national security, one issue has been lost in the debate: there are a lot of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] all the back and forth over climate change and national security, one issue has been lost in the debate: there are a lot of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: T. Greer</title>
		<link>http://www.americansecurityproject.org/theflashpointblog/selena-shilad/2009/08/12/why-james-carafano-has-it-exactly-wrong-on-climate-change-and-national-security/comment-page-1/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Greer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have written &lt;a href=&quot;http://scholars-stage.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-selena-shilad-has-it-exactly-wrong.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an extensive response &lt;/a&gt;to this piece on my own blog. If you wish to respond to it, and if it is easier for you to do so here, I shall gladly post it in total here in the comments section of Flash Point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have written <a href="http://scholars-stage.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-selena-shilad-has-it-exactly-wrong.html" rel="nofollow">an extensive response </a>to this piece on my own blog. If you wish to respond to it, and if it is easier for you to do so here, I shall gladly post it in total here in the comments section of Flash Point.</p>
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		<title>By: Why Carafano Has it Right on Climate Change, Part II &#124; Conservative Principles Now</title>
		<link>http://www.americansecurityproject.org/theflashpointblog/selena-shilad/2009/08/12/why-james-carafano-has-it-exactly-wrong-on-climate-change-and-national-security/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Carafano Has it Right on Climate Change, Part II &#124; Conservative Principles Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the American Security Project responded to four “myths” in Carafano’s piece. But their retaliatory facts ignore Carafano’s central premise that the Waxman-Markey cap and trade bill will do much more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the American Security Project responded to four “myths” in Carafano’s piece. But their retaliatory facts ignore Carafano’s central premise that the Waxman-Markey cap and trade bill will do much more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Carafano Has it Right on Climate Change, Part I &#124; Conservative Principles Now</title>
		<link>http://www.americansecurityproject.org/theflashpointblog/selena-shilad/2009/08/12/why-james-carafano-has-it-exactly-wrong-on-climate-change-and-national-security/comment-page-1/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Carafano Has it Right on Climate Change, Part I &#124; Conservative Principles Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Let’s take a look at ASP’s critiques: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why Carafano Has it Right on Climate Change, Part II &#187; The Foundry</title>
		<link>http://www.americansecurityproject.org/theflashpointblog/selena-shilad/2009/08/12/why-james-carafano-has-it-exactly-wrong-on-climate-change-and-national-security/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Carafano Has it Right on Climate Change, Part II &#187; The Foundry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the American Security Project responded to four “myths” in Carafano’s piece. But their retaliatory facts ignore Carafano’s central premise that the Waxman-Markey cap and trade bill will do much more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the American Security Project responded to four “myths” in Carafano’s piece. But their retaliatory facts ignore Carafano’s central premise that the Waxman-Markey cap and trade bill will do much more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Carafano Has it Right on Climate Change, Part I &#187; The Foundry</title>
		<link>http://www.americansecurityproject.org/theflashpointblog/selena-shilad/2009/08/12/why-james-carafano-has-it-exactly-wrong-on-climate-change-and-national-security/comment-page-1/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Carafano Has it Right on Climate Change, Part I &#187; The Foundry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Let’s take a look at ASP’s critiques: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cheri M</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheri M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cheri Murrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheri Murrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who has studied, or even read up on the history of the world’s climate knows that the earth is a living breathing thing with cyclic ups and downs, including of all things weather.  Personally, I have a greater respect for planet, as a whole than to think that my car or a herd of cattle can have so drastic an impact.  In my opinion, man has done more harm through deforestation to adversely effect climate, not to mention destroy species of animal life than anything that industry has done in the last hundred or so years. Left to its own, planet Earth is more than capable of taking care of itself and us, even with all the stupid things we have done and continue to do. Given enough time, the planet can recover from anything as it has for billions of years.  What will eventually do us in, in the greed, arrogance and ignorance of the world’s leaders.   We have more to fear from what man will do to man, than from what man will do to planet Earth.

I think Dr. Carafano has it right when he says that the environment or if I may say, the changes in the environment don’t cause wars, it’s the way people react to the changes that cause wars.  Creating planet wide fear about climate change does more to cause wars over resources than to help in any situation, but it does further the causes being championed by those stirring the pot. Doesn’t it make more sense for countries who have limited resources to support the ones that do, and to make every effort to befriend the countries that can feed the world, rather than start conflicts with them? Maybe it’s just me, but that seems to be a perfect example of how a change in the way a government reacts to “climate change” can make a real difference. Of course if you’re greedy, ignorant and arrogant, I guess you might think it’s better to go to war with those who have what you want rather than enter into treaties that might be mutually beneficial.

The writer cites history as being filled with “examples of climate induced conflicts and humanitarian disasters”.  I think that does more to support Carafano that to debunk him.  Again, the planet is cyclic.  There are examples of drastic climate changes throughout history.  The thought that human beings are the cause of those changes and can therefore actually prevent or even slightly affect those changes is “silly”.  But, it does serve as an excellent platform on which to stand to get people’s attention by scaring them into making changes that they would ordinarily pay no attention to. For example, we must stop eating meat, because the herds of cattle being raised for the purpose of human consumption are creating methane gas which in turn is causing global warming. If the planet could handle herds of buffalo large enough to cover entire states, belching and otherwise expelling gas, than how is my double cheeseburger destroying the planet?
Oh, maybe it’s because P.E.D.A. is the one spreading that news and, maybe because they have a “dog in that fight”….probably a bad expression to use in a P.E.D.A argument.
For the record, I am the first one standing in an argument for the ethical treatment of animals, but let’s get serious and keep our battles where they belong.

People have a choice in how they handle disasters.  Dr. Carafano makes a sober, logical argument that it makes sense for nations to adapt to the inevitable change in climate that is coming over the next hundred years or so. If evolution has taught us nothing else, it is that those who do not adapt…go extinct.

I think George Carlin had it right nearly twenty years ago, when he said “The planet isn’t going anywhere….WE are!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has studied, or even read up on the history of the world’s climate knows that the earth is a living breathing thing with cyclic ups and downs, including of all things weather.  Personally, I have a greater respect for planet, as a whole than to think that my car or a herd of cattle can have so drastic an impact.  In my opinion, man has done more harm through deforestation to adversely effect climate, not to mention destroy species of animal life than anything that industry has done in the last hundred or so years. Left to its own, planet Earth is more than capable of taking care of itself and us, even with all the stupid things we have done and continue to do. Given enough time, the planet can recover from anything as it has for billions of years.  What will eventually do us in, in the greed, arrogance and ignorance of the world’s leaders.   We have more to fear from what man will do to man, than from what man will do to planet Earth.</p>
<p>I think Dr. Carafano has it right when he says that the environment or if I may say, the changes in the environment don’t cause wars, it’s the way people react to the changes that cause wars.  Creating planet wide fear about climate change does more to cause wars over resources than to help in any situation, but it does further the causes being championed by those stirring the pot. Doesn’t it make more sense for countries who have limited resources to support the ones that do, and to make every effort to befriend the countries that can feed the world, rather than start conflicts with them? Maybe it’s just me, but that seems to be a perfect example of how a change in the way a government reacts to “climate change” can make a real difference. Of course if you’re greedy, ignorant and arrogant, I guess you might think it’s better to go to war with those who have what you want rather than enter into treaties that might be mutually beneficial.</p>
<p>The writer cites history as being filled with “examples of climate induced conflicts and humanitarian disasters”.  I think that does more to support Carafano that to debunk him.  Again, the planet is cyclic.  There are examples of drastic climate changes throughout history.  The thought that human beings are the cause of those changes and can therefore actually prevent or even slightly affect those changes is “silly”.  But, it does serve as an excellent platform on which to stand to get people’s attention by scaring them into making changes that they would ordinarily pay no attention to. For example, we must stop eating meat, because the herds of cattle being raised for the purpose of human consumption are creating methane gas which in turn is causing global warming. If the planet could handle herds of buffalo large enough to cover entire states, belching and otherwise expelling gas, than how is my double cheeseburger destroying the planet?<br />
Oh, maybe it’s because P.E.D.A. is the one spreading that news and, maybe because they have a “dog in that fight”….probably a bad expression to use in a P.E.D.A argument.<br />
For the record, I am the first one standing in an argument for the ethical treatment of animals, but let’s get serious and keep our battles where they belong.</p>
<p>People have a choice in how they handle disasters.  Dr. Carafano makes a sober, logical argument that it makes sense for nations to adapt to the inevitable change in climate that is coming over the next hundred years or so. If evolution has taught us nothing else, it is that those who do not adapt…go extinct.</p>
<p>I think George Carlin had it right nearly twenty years ago, when he said “The planet isn’t going anywhere….WE are!”</p>
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